This is Episode 105 of The Seen and the Unseen, the weekly podcast hosted by our editor,  Amit Varma. 

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In the second of a two-part series, historian Ramachandra Guha joins Amit Varma in episode 105 of The Seen and the Unseen to talk about Mohandas Gandhi’s transformation into Mahatma Gandhi — and how that changed the world. Among the subjects discussed: caste, misogyny and Gandhi’s personal obsessions.

Also check out: Ramachandra Guha’s books on Gandhi, Gandhi Before India and Gandhi: The Years That Changed the World.

Here’s Part 1 of this series, When Gandhi Was Mohandas.

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